What is wrong with the systems I've been recommending? It has everything the TD model has at about 1/2 price. Both of them I've purchased arrived in great shape. The only problem of course is they don't provide recovery disks, but considering most people can find a copy of XP Pro, and others charge half as much for disks alone, it isn't much to cry about. For $70 bucks it comes in less than the CPU does new.