Windows Blue 8.1 Boot To Desktop Feature

Can Windows Blue save us? I’ve tried to be a Windows 8 evangelist. I am an early adopter and one of the few that actually liked Windows Vista, so I’m use to being laughed at and ridiculed for my choice of Operating Systems. Windows 8 has been a hard sell, however. There is simply too much negative buzz about it, and I find myself not telling people about the many great features such as the built-in antivirus, faster boot times and an improved task manager. Instead, I find myself frequently describing Windows 8 as “It’s not that bad.”

“Windows 8: It’s not that bad” is a terrible slogan.

blueSo I was thrilled when I read in a recent Verge article that Windows Blue (Windows 8.1) will likely include a boot to desktop option, but it is unclear at this point whether the Start menu itself will make a come back.

Personally, I immediately bypass the Metro start screen and go directly to the gimped Desktop each time I boot my PC. I loath having to switch back to the Metro interface to start an app. The Metro interface probably has its place on a tablet or touch screen laptop, but not on my desktop machine.

Windows 8 Blue, for those that don’t know, is a new release cycle for the Windows Operating System. It’s similar to the Mac Operating System release schedule, where annual updates are released rather than waiting a few years for the next incarnation. Windows Blue is expected to be a released to manufacturing late this summer, so those of us suffering with workarounds could find relief this fall.

Arguably, these are the top two gripes about Windows 8. The lack of the familiar Start button leaves businesses and casual users clambering for work arounds and many have simply decided their Windows 7 machine is good enough for now. Many people don’t like the fact that they are forced to boot to Metro, and are not given the choice to boot directly to the Windows desktop. The fact that the registry key “CanSuppressStartScreen” is included in the Windows 8.1 is a good sign of things to come for Windows 8.

Users should not have to install third-party tools to get the functionality that has been in previous versions of Windows. Sure, there are shortcut keys like Windows key+X that brings up an abbreviated form of the Start menu. Most users will not know about that, however, because like many Windows 8 options, Microsoft has not made it a discoverable feature.

Let us know how you feel. Do you care? If you’re still running Windows 7, could the new Windows Blue features convince you to adopt Windows 8.1? Windows 8 does have a lot of cool features. Read our Windows 8 articles to learn about them.

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David is a tech professional with over fifteen years of experience in the IT fields of hardware, software and system administration.

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  1. Old Man says:

    Dave,

    I’m surprised you haven’t taken full advantage of the Start Page. It is so easy to configure it to become a Start Menu that is actually easier to use than the one through the Start Button. However, most authors, even those supporting Win 8, use some third party add-on to make Win 8 nothing more than an enhanced Win 7.

    One of the first things I did was unpin/uninstall the apps I don’t/won’t use and pin the programs I do use, then rearrange it all for the way I work. With a free app found in the Store, Tile A File, I can even pin frequently used documents to my new Start Menu. I have the Tools/Utilities I use somewhat frequently pinned to my Start Menu. The whole process took about 15 minutes. Now my computer boots to my Start Menu, where I can either select the program/file I want, or just start typing the name and select it from the search results. Much easier and more efficient than before.

    By right-clicking anywhere on my Start Menu, selecting All Apps in the lower right corner, I get all programs loaded on my computer, including system Tools. Much easier than trying to remember which folder contained the one I need.

    I read an article on how to add shortcuts for Shutdown, Restart, Sleep and Hibernate to the Desktop and Start Page. The only one I wanted was Shutdown. Now I don’t even have to click Start-to-stop. I had a shortcut like that on Win 98, but it wouldn’t work on XP. I’m happy to have it back.

    People’s complaints remind me of what happened in the auto industry: I don’t want no automatic transmission – give me back my clutch.

    We’ve heard about hardware backward compatibility and software backward compatibility built in OSs. Maybe the next iteration of Windows will include user backward compatibility.

    • Newby says:

      Thanks for the comment about “right-click” on your “start menu” and then clicking on “All Apps”. I did that and found a couple of neat programs that I did not know were installed on my machine.

      Thanks.

    • Drew Eakin says:

      I hate Windows 8 and wish I had kept Windows 7. Windows 8 is an absolute pain in my…

    • zooid says:

      You said:
      “People’s complaints remind me of what happened in the auto industry: I don’t want no automatic transmission – give me back my clutch.”

      Very apropos, and thanks for making the perfect analogy to puncture your own argument. Manual transmissions are superior to automatic transmissions. Name any race driver who drives an automatic on either a race course, or in ‘regular traffic’: There are *none*. Automatics are for people *who don’t know how to drive*.

      Same goes for Windows 8 Modern UI.

      More charitably, at best, it’s for people who have touch-interface devices. Metro/Modern is a dumbed-down interface for min-spec hardware and lowest-common-denominator users. Congratulations on getting what you always wanted and needed…

  2. James Higley says:

    I bought 2 copies of Windows 8 Pro because it was available at $40. I found a program by Stardock.com called Start8 for $5 that give me a Win 7 Start menu and load Win 8 to my Desktop. My Win 8 looks like a Win 7 operating system with a sSart menu and shutting down is simple too by going to the Start menu and clicking on Shutdown. You can also do a Restart on the Start menu too, just like Win 7.

    • yubbauk says:

      So let me get this straight. You paid for windows 8, then paid some more dosh, to make it look like windows 7. Or folks, you could do what I did to make it look like windows 7….I didn’t buy windows 8, and my windows 7 machine, looks like windows 7…Just a idea! 😉

      • No. Upgrading to 8 is worth it even if at $5 more than retail (I also purchased Start8). The speed improvements are very perceptible, they aren’t simple statistical artifacts of some measurement method or another. In fact, Windows 8 is so much faster than 7 that some operations feel like they complete in two thirds to half the time they took in 7. Sticking with 7 is sticking to a slower OS, for no actual benefit.

        • Joe says:

          Windows 8 is faster than what? Heck, I just made an old Win XP box run better than Win 8 crap on a brand new hardware that has four times the RAM and double the CPU. Both machines do all the functions that an average user needs – no more. Look at the money and aggravation the XP owner saved himself over the Vista, Win 7 and 8 years!

          • Peter Thompson says:

            The problem there is that Windows XP will be unsupported in round about a years time so you’ll really need to upgrade.

            Obviously you can stay on XP but if you want to get the most out of it then you’d also be putting yourself at risk.

            The problem is that bugs, security holes etc. will be found but not fixed any more as they will be focusing on their other operating systems. Having an antivirus will probably do nothing as basically it will be like having a doctor locked but leaving a window open, people will be able to break in.

  3. Paul Hogan says:

    I just cannot understand what this no start button problem is. Get modern.

    • ken IT says:

      Some folks just have a love and affection for their computer or tablet. Others need to get some work done and already know the tools they use to do their work using Win7 OS. Windows 8 rips out the productivity for the sake of “cool and modern” and replaces it with glitz and a touchy-feely experience. Stop trying to be Apple and be the #1 OS in the world again. Is that so hard?

  4. Dave says:

    James, yes Start8 is a great deal at 5 bucks.

    Paul, 18 years with a Start button. We just miss it.

  5. Dave says:

    Old Man, I really should spend more time tweaking my start page. It probably would look less like Windows threw up everywhere if I took some time to clean it up. Good points everyone!

  6. Frank Klett says:

    Personally I don’t care for Win8 and I did run it for 2 months prior to its release…I just feel much more at home with Win7 and I feel that there are too many rants about “I don’t understand” the lack of start button, metro, etc. I am apparently not alone…so MS needs to decide what it wants to be in the next year or two…I already run Mint on my 2 laptops and today I ordered a Mac Book to find alternatives…to the future of non-windows windows.
    I think it is great that some folks like Win8, but it just is not going to be a mainstream OS in the near future…as long as XP and Win7 exist there will be little to no acceptance…just my opinion.

    • Richard Remmele says:

      Ok, I run a windows 7 and a windows 8 system side by side. If you have Windows 7 there is no reason to run out and buy windows 8.

      I upgraded my XP systems for that $40 upgrade price, but decided not to do it with the Windows 7 system.

      My Windows 8 is slightly faster and slightly more responsive than my Windows 7 and the Win 7 has an older and slower Quad processor and half the memory of the Windows 8 system.

      Also, Windows 8 brought an old retired XP system of mine back from the dead.

      I came up with just 3 things to remember that fit on a post-it note that would allow me to do everything that the Start button did, but I was curious so I installed the free Classic Shell and found that I still really love the start button.

      • zooid says:

        I likewise run Win 8 and Win 7 machines side-by-side, and the Win 8 machine *blows the Win 7 machine away*. Everything is faster: It boots a full minute faster, with the same CPU, RAM and systray startups (AV, Office, etc.); it opens frequently used programs *much* faster; and it shuts down/sleeps/hibernates –and then comes back — much quicker. I love the way Win 8 handles updates, too…

        So, I’m sorry, but I simply don’t understand how your Win 7 is as fast as your Win 8. It sounds too bad to be true…

        P.S.
        I likewise use Stardock’s Start8 for Start button and boot to Desktop; Decor8 to configure Modern, Lock screen and standard Desktop backgrounds, instead of my choice of Crayola 8-color primaries; and ModernMix, which puts Modern-style ‘apps’ into a window that can be minimized, maximized, restored and *closed on command* (yes, I have 5 ‘cascaded’ Modern ‘apps’ open right now that can be ALT-Tab’ed through or minimized to the taskbar). Total additional cost: $15. Best $15 I ever spent on software, btw. I am in no way affiliated with Stardock; but good, fairly priced products deserve praise.

    • Richard Remmele says:

      By the way, I saw no reason not to take advantage of the now expired $40 offer for my XP systems. MS is stopping support and those systems will be getting more and more vulnerable to security threats over time. And then there is Vista. I can’t believe anyone is still on Vista. Windows 7 was the fix to Vista that MS made us re-buy.

      • vista-mista says:

        Well, despite all the negativism spewed about Vista there are still millions of computers running it quite merrily. Grow up all you Windows 8 whiners.

    • bedlamb says:

      Also, there are those of us who think Vista SP2 is far superior to 7. I dual boot Vista SP2 and Mint.

  7. Personally, I hated Windows 8 at first. It was like when I upgraded my old XP machine back in the day to Vista. After I ran 8 for a few weeks I switched backto 7. Funny thing on 7 I found myself trying to swipe in the charms and missing some Windows 8 features. After that, I reinstalled my Win 8 and haven’t looked back.

    Also, Old Man has a very good post. The Startscreen is awesome and beautiful. I don’t have to have all the extra stuff on it. Customize and optimize it to suite your needs. Anybody that uses a shell modifier for 8 to add a start menu probably used the classic start menu in XP because they were afraid of the new, wider menu back then.

    I also recommend from Stardock, Decor8. Awesome app to change the background of the startscreen.

  8. Robert Bloomfield says:

    It is merely corportate or techie arrogance that decides to drastically change an OS GUI after conditioning its user base for nearly 15 years to a certain methodology.

    The MAJORITY of computer users want to turn it on, do their thing and turn it off while having the expectation that after hitting the power “ON” key , the computer actually works.

    the auto industry comes up with technical advancements and new body designs but the core components that a user will use each time, remain the same. The dashboard layout and location of switches remain in the traditional locations.

    In fact there is a basic, cross company standard so that a user can move from car to car without difficulty…

    take notice MS and Apple… god forbid you should ditch your corporate arrogance infavor of the people that keep you in business.

    Few care about an OS other than its stability and familiarity… once you have those, please hide so i can do my work!

    Robert Bloomfield

  9. Dieter says:

    I totally love Windows classic app, give us so many more features than ever before, a must have for Win 8 and I hope Win 8.1 comes standard with classic shell, try it and check the different options = totally awesome, even better than Win 7

  10. Matt says:

    Amen, Robert. I could not have expressed it better.

    Matt Paxton

  11. Linda Q says:

    I TOTALLY agree with Robert Bloomfield. Give me an OS that is stable and familiar…then go away so i can do my work! I use my computer to work, not play. Microsoft should not force people to buy models with bells and whistles they don’t want or need.

  12. Mike Ashton says:

    As a Professional Drafter all the “fancy bells and whistles” of Windows 8 mean nothing because it won’t run AutoCAD 3D software as in 2D will work but is very slow and clunky 3D produces BSOD or just causes it to reboot. Windows 8 is not recommended by AutoDesk.
    No my computer is not the problem
    AMD Phenom IIx61045T 2.70GHz
    16GB ram, 128Gb SSD( Boot drive ) 1Tb HDD storage, ATI FirePro V4800 (FireGL) Video card. it boots from power off to windows logon in less than 30 secs and less than 10 secs to desktop.
    I know from previous experience when VISTA was issued the same problem occured ( same design team for VISTA and 8? )
    so if I upgrade to whatever OS Windoze puts out it has to run the programs I use to make money or it sucks.
    Also a question… How many Municipalities or Colleges have upgraded their systems beyond XP? Most haven’t even looked at 7 muchless 8. and 7 worked phenomenally on everything.
    I’m not holding my breath for til I turn BLUE that’s for sure.

  13. Windows 8 sucks all around I own a pc support company. I took it off my pc and put 7 back on. There are stability issues and yes I need a desktop/start button. For those paying $5? IOBIT which is a very good company has a free one that is even better. They also make Advanced System Card BTW and a free malware fighter. I have many old customers who are frustrated enough switching from XP to W7 throw in W8 and they are lost. Big mistake for MS I used to be for them until this debacle. If I could get Linux to run the apps I need like QB I would switch myself and as many customers I could. MS showed lack of customer foresight and concern by dumping this crappy os on us

  14. Henry Kuska says:

    I use dual boot, XP and 8.
    8 for 64 bit programs and XP for programs and accessories that are not yet supported by 8.

  15. Mike Markwick says:

    I am a Windows 8 user I use start menu x free has several skin options, can even change start button to windows 7 look alike if you want to you can boot straight to desktop.

  16. lucylou says:

    W7 is slow to boot, and has major issues copying files.
    W8 is much better, faster, and as solid as W7 or better.
    Stardock menu is so tightly integrated that it looks as if it is the real Start menu, and allows using Metro or classic DT.

    …I wouldnt rely on the “built-in antivirus” – Windows Defender doesnt inspire confidence…

    • RonC says:

      I still use “XP”. But I loaded “Win7” on a different drive, & it boots in 17 seconds. Fastest loading OS that I’ve seen. I’m a computer tech, and I have worked on 50plus “Win8” machines since it came out.
      My attitude: If it ain’t broke, stop trying to fix it.
      Just my opinon.

  17. So, yet again Microsoft have moved the furniture around and painted a new color and picture for the Windows 8 interface to make you believe that you have an entirely new product ?!?! which is yet again a lot of Bull S h i f t.

    Ever since Win 95 and the claims made then of a different platform and said not to be on a DOS platform, etc., etc., and when we looked into it, it had 87% of Win 3.11 for Workgroup files which they did not even bother to hide or re-vamp.

    The story of Win 98, XP, Vista, and now Win 8 is no different, it’s the same chassis with a different looking dashboard, new upholstery and carpets and a new spray paint job.

    Changing folders and giving you new links to them and not even hiding the original folders, common guys surely you are not that gullible, or is it that you got caught up with the hype and fell for the Marketing Propaganda (Straight out of the Joseph Goebbels Manual) to have Microsoft Operating systems akin to being “Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound! … ” don’t believe it it !!

    The fact that it is the largest used Operating system does not excuse the facts of the manipulation in my opinion and if they move the furniture around any more, we will end up with the bathroom toilet in the lounge room being used for a coffee table and the coffee table hidden in an inaccessible folder ☺☺

    So with Microsoft teaching us how to use their OS’s up to Win 7, at least we found most of what we had been taught and then came Win 8 and it all went out the “Window” or should I say out the “Windows”

    Windows 8 with touch screens used in an Office with the remnants of lunch stuck on the screen was not a good idea I thought and was the wrong “hands on” to use when we need hard keyboards and a mouse to clean the lunch off the screen and give us a clean environment.

    Enough said, I think you got the drift and tenure of what is going on.

    Have fun with Windows 8 and wait for the necessary revision(s) to make it a user options friendly system !

    Roger H.

  18. Jerry LaFreniere says:

    A while back I purchased a HP so called top of the line laptop which had Win8 Pro on it. I really tried hard to adapt to Win8 but after about a month I gave up removed it and purchased/installed Win7 Pro. The main reason I went this way was I don’t own and Ipad, Ipod, Andriod, Smart Phone or any of those so called newer gadget items. I guess I’m old fashioned and feel a computer should look and operate like a computer. So I’m kind of looking forward to better version of Win8.

  19. Pat C says:

    I adopted Windows 8 the day it was released, part of my job was windows 8 training, Microsoft workshops etc. I run a total of 10 pcs at home, as well as a server, and do just about anything you can do on a computer. I use Office 365, as well as almost every Adobe product they make. I am a power user. Its also my job to know the ins and outs of pcs. I have windows 8 on every pc in my house and Server 2012 on my server. In a household of 4, every single one of us uses Windows 8 and none of us use any Shell enhancement software to aquire a start button. Yes there is a bit of a learning curve with windows 8, however, if there is literally ANYTHING that you are looking for, all you have to do is simply type it. This has been a feature built into every versio of windows since Vista, but it is much easier to use now, as you don’t have to click the start button to do it. Having everything integrated into ONE search is probably one of the best things Microsoft has done. I am an advocate for Windows 8, and I teach windows 8 workshops every 2 weeks. every single person that has attended my class has left with a much better understanding of the operating system and is more confident in using it. The biggest problem with windows 8 is not the OS, its the people. yes its not what you’re used to, but that in no way makes it a horrible OS. People are fearful of computers enough, let alone a new LOOKING system, but if they have someone to show them the shortcuts and the ease of use they are much happier. As far as the OS goes, it is WAY faster than windows 7, much easier to use, rock solid, and getting better with every update to both the OS and to the Apps. One of the biggest issues people have is that they have not allowed the updates to run, and have not allowed the apps to update either. Like I said I have 10 pcs running it, and have absolutely no issues, with software or hardware. It is very secure. another thing is the Microsoft account. it is a requirement to take full advantage of windows 8. and a lot of people skip by it and then don’t understand why the core apps don’t work. yes, Microsoft should have been a little better in their presentation of windows 8 and maybe even included a 10 minute video for you to watch when setting it up for the first time, but that’s really all it takes to figure it out. Its Awesome is all I can really say. I talk to people all day that don’t want windows 8 on their computer, and I ask them if they have tried it, and the answer is usually “no, but so and so says…” word of mouth is a huge factor in being successful, and the nay sayers have had a big part in the slow rise of windows 8. Microsoft is moving forward, they are not staying in the past 18 years, its a new era, and I personally think they did it very well. just my 2 cents, flame on.

    • RonC says:

      Why sould anyone have to have a “Windows 8” training
      workshop? People who “drive Cars” don’t have to be trained each time a “New” model comes out. First time I saw “Win8”, couldn’t find how to “shut it down” except, “Pulling the Plug”…..

    • Lesley says:

      Oh I agree. I love Windows 8.

      It gets boring using the same interface year after year. I like to have new things. I repaint my house, get better furniture and update my pcs. Windows 8 is good fun.. I learn new ways to do things–and do things better- everyday.

  20. Brigit says:

    ok I’ve read all the posts on windoz 8 for some time now and I can only say this…windoz 8 tops my list of least favorite MS OS’s. no, I am not afraid of trying something new! no, I am not stuck in the “past” nor am I an avid supporter of MS, MS just happens to have the most widely accepted and most user friendly OS going. I repair and upgrade computers and have for the last 8 years so I think it’s safe to say that I at least know a little bit about what i’m talking about here when I say that windoz 8 has no place on a desktop computer…touch screens yes! it’s awesome on touch screens but not for desktops unless you “tweak” it beyond insanity! yes, I have windoz 8 on a netbook and quite honestly, I can’t wait to replace the hard drive and get that garbage off! MS needs to remember how and who put them where they are today.

  21. Mary Lachapelle says:

    I LOVE Windows 8 PRO. I, too, don’t know what the biggy about the start button is. It’s so much faster. I love the metro screen! It wakes me up. It’s bright, fun, and makes using the computer fun again! And for the people who don’t care for it…. I have this lovely Logitech programmable mouse and with one quick click of my thumb, I am on the desktop or back to the metro again! If you need your computer for heavy business stuff, then Windows 7 might be your best bet, but 8 is great and will get only better once they start tweaking and fixing this and that like with every new OS that comes out. The only thing I’m not real crazy about is the mail app. They should have made an outlook mail app. Have a great day everyone! 🙂

    • Mary Lachapelle says:

      Me again. 🙂 And P.S. I have a Windows phone and all of it integrating together is multi awesome!

  22. JoeW says:

    I thought much of the whining about Vista was underved. But Win8 is a BUST. I have no interest in their paltry “ungrades” until the geniuses at Redmond read the name of their very own product and allow desktop users to run Metro in a WINDOW!!!!!!! I do not want a full screen calculator. I do not want full screen solitare. Come to think of it, I do not want ANYTHING other than a large spreadsheet running fullscreen. It’s a flat out deal breaker.

  23. cliff says:

    Anybody that says they like this steaming pile of dung is tetched.Admit it its horrible,period!! Thats all!!!!

  24. William Gove says:

    DAvid Weaver, I see you run QB. I run QB64 on XP, 7, and Windows 8. It is supposed to be for 64 bit systems but also works on 32 bit XP. Just thought you might like to know that.

  25. dinoguy says:

    I, like you, liked vista – I still run it on a machine. The only thing I didn’t like about Win 7 was you had to buy a particular “flavor”, and some of the features needed for a basic machine in my area (we can’t connect to the internet dhcp) required business or ultimate for the networking part.

    Windows 8 is another story altogether. I think it’s a great OS for tablets, but I will NEVER NEVER run it on a desktop. I do believer Microsoft has finally found a way to get me to convert to linux!

  26. Click Bang says:

    Adding a start button and making Windows 8 look like Windows 7 is simple, and I would imagine that the majority of people that do not like Windows 8 would change their minds….
    And, by doing this, you end up with the best of both worlds…
    It is a faster and more secure operating system, and if you want the Windows 8 Apps menu, it is only a click away… And, many of the apps are fantastic….
    I run both 7 and 8 on multiple computers… It really does not matter to me which one that I am on…. I am not real fond of 8 as it is out of the box, but it surely is not as bad as patching and hacking XP all day and every day….
    Even Vista was better than XP if you had the power to run it…

  27. J.R. Link says:

    I have Windows 8 installed on two desktops, one laptop and on a Surface Pro. I use start 8 to give me the old start menu back but I do use the Metro screen for the store and store apps as well. I have more problems with the Surface Pro than the desktops. On the Surface some common apps like Firefox are very small and don’t respond well to touch almost requiring use of the keyboard. All in all I’m happy with Windows 8 on the desktop and Surface Pro.

  28. Lisa says:

    I love the fast boot time of win8. I never use metro, though. I downloaded classic shell and boot to the desktop where everything familiar is there. Start button, programs , etc. the only thing I miss from 7 is msconfig. The startup options are now in ctrl panel.

  29. Ken Palmer says:

    I’ve been using Win8 on two home desktops since its launch and I’ve had no problem adjusting to it. It has obviously been designed with touch screens in mind, but I’ve found it perfectly straightforward to use with a keyboard and mouse, although perhaps less so on a laptop without a scrollable wheel.

    I installed Start 8 on the pre-release version of Win8, but quickly realised that recreating the start button and the old-fashioned start menu was going to stop me from making best use of the flexibility that’s built into the Metro screen, so I got rid of it.

    Others have explained how easy it is to customise the Metro screen and it really is. I’ve added custom tiles for shutdown and restart and another one that opens the document containing all my banking details. Over the months those three tiles have saved me a lot of time compared with the far more click-intensive ways of doing the same things in Windows 7.

    The one additional purchase I have made is Stardock’s Modern Mix, which allows you to run individual Metro apps in their own windows. You can re-size them, attach them to the taskbar,close them by clicking the X icon in the top right corner, in fact make them work just like “proper” programs. It cost me $4.99 and I accept that I really shouldn’t have had to pay to get that functionality. But hopefully the Sinofsky approach, of chaining users to the Metro workplace and forcing them to buy not particularly inspiring apps, will not survive his departure and Windows Blue will give us for free the functionality that Win8 could and should have had.

    I came out to my holiday place this week and turned on my old Windows 7 desktop for the first time since last September. Only then did I truly realise how much less flexible it is than Win8. I couldn’t wait to upgrade it.

    I think Pat C has been far too kind to MS with the “Microsoft should have been a little better in their presentation of windows 8” comment. In fact, if Win8 fails, MS will only have itself to blame, because of its inexplicable failure to provide any meaningful guidance about how to use a very different-looking OS. Whichever Redmond idiot thought that a twenty second graphic showing an arrow repeatedly jabbing at the corner of a screen would be sufficient guidance shouldn’t still be in his or her job. Many of those who have given up Win8 in despair could have been won over if MS has taken a little more trouble…. and if some of the tech press had made more effort themselves to explain to their readers how to get the best out of Win8 rather than just bemoaning the lack of a start button.

  30. Loren B says:

    I am amazed at how many still use XP. They probably drive Model Ts also.
    Jerry LaFreniere said:
    I really tried hard to adapt to Win8 but after about a month I gave up removed it and purchased/installed Win7 Pro. The main reason I went this way was I don’t own and Ipad, Ipod, Andriod, Smart Phone or any of those so called newer gadget items. I guess I’m old fashioned and feel a computer should look and operate like a computer. So I’m kind of looking forward to better version of Win8.

    So you probably should go get a Trash80 but in case you haven’t noticed, the sales of smart phones and tablets has skyrocketed. You’re in a very small minority as am I but I still like the new tech even if I can’t afford it.

    yubbauk
    So let me get this straight. You paid for windows 8, then paid some more dosh, to make it look like windows 7. Or folks, you could do what I did to make it look like windows 7….I didn’t buy windows 8, and my windows 7 machine, looks like windows 7…Just a idea

    Forget the new car- I’ll just stick with my pre-smog flathead V8

    Robert Bloomfield
    It is merely corporate or techie arrogance that decides to drastically change an OS GUI after conditioning its user base for nearly 15 years to a certain methodology.
    The MAJORITY of computer users want to turn it on, do their thing and turn it off while having the expectation that after hitting the power “ON” key , the computer actually works.

    What else are you conditioned to? What do you know about the MAJORITY? YOU SURE ARE NOT ONE OF THEM.

    The auto industry comes up with technical advancements and new body designs but the core components that a user will use each time, remain the same. The dashboard layout and location of switches remain in the traditional locations.
    In fact there is a basic, cross company standard so that a user can move from car to car without difficulty…

    Oh yeah- how many can drive a stick today?
    Pat C
    The biggest problem with windows 8 is not the OS, its the people.
    One of the biggest issues people have is that they have not allowed the updates to run, and have not allowed the apps to update either.
    another thing is the Microsoft account. it is a requirement to take full advantage of windows 8. and a lot of people skip by it and then don’t understand why the core apps don’t work.

    Right on. Unfortunately even 15 years of conditioning does not train folks to use a computer correctly.

    RonC
    Why should anyone have to have a “Windows 8″ training workshop? People who “drive Cars” don’t have to be trained each time a “New” model comes out. First time I saw “Win8″, couldn’t find how to “shut it down” except, “Pulling the Plug”…..

    I got in a new car today and it looked like an airplane cockpit. Need lessons just to use the radio. And how many of us learned to drive without some kind of lessons. AARP still gives old folks lessons because “Lessons” don’t mean proper use!

    Mary Lachapelle
    I have a Windows phone and all of it integrating together is multi awesome!

    I think you represent the “new majority”. The rest need to get in their VW Bus and go live in the woods.

  31. Stephen Barnes says:

    Well, I have to say that I didn’t like the Win8 beginning experience. A hand holding video would have been a smart touch. I have, as others above noted, been trained to have my start menu. And, thanks to retroui.com I have that back AND can use the advantageous full screen start menu MS thought we needed. It’s still unnerving when you click on a link and the screen does a somersault (switching to desktop), but I do believe Win8’s behind the windows engine is faster and more reliable. That said, my wife still prefers Vista. She’s finally learned it and that’s that. I don’t want to confuse her.

  32. John v.d. Merwe says:

    Get it wrong in a car and somebody can actually die… Thats why they have a mostly universal layout for the controls. PC’s are generally not that lethal. The key to adapting to windows 8 lies in customizing the stary screen. Every user is different, and Windows 8 celebrates that. If all you do is office work, it allows you to get to Word, Outlook, or Excel in seconds. The same goes for gamers who want to get to Steam and Origin quickly. Get your start screen to work for you and you will save yourself a hell of a lot of clicks! That is after all why it is there. I am running windows 8 pro on my desktop PC, and I find myself going to the desktop side of it less and less. At this point all a start button would do is slow me down. Take the time to play around with it, keep it updated, customize it to fit your workflow, and you will gradually start seeing the point behind windows 8. Then get a Live account, and everything changes again… 15 years is a long time to not change anything significantly. I think it’s about friggen time!

  33. Affonso Freitas says:

    Hey guys. I had my issues on Windows 8 the first time I used it. I’ve removed it as many of you did cause I could not find how to shutdown my computer. After a while I decided to give W8 another chance and after a couple of days I was totally used to it. Is faster than Windows 7. I use my laptop Asus G75 for everything including work and flight simulation(Prepar3d) and no problem at all. Cheers from Brazil.

  34. LarryF says:

    Don’t know about anyone else, but I often run two or three applications side by side, so that I can read one and modify my work on the other.

    Windows 8 apps make that impossible. They run full screen, and there’s no way of changing that except by using third-party software like Stardock’s ModernMix.

    In addition to that, MS hid the method for shutting down apps after you finish using them. Finger gestures? Great if you have a touchscreen. Not so good if, like the majority of desktop owners, you don’t. That means that for the majority of users, there’s a very good chance that the longer they run their computer, the more unclosed programs are going to accumulate and take up resources.

    Would it have really killed programmers to put a freaking “close program” button on the apps? Apparently so, because none of them have. Again, one would have to fork over $5 to Stardock for ModernMix to get that simple option back.

    As for the earlier comment that the Modern UI is beautiful? Purely subjective. Personally, I hate the fact that I can’t change the Start wallpaper to suit my own tastes, and think the tiles are the single ugliest thing MS ever did to an OS.

    • Jimbo says:

      So many applications are designed for ‘drag and drop’ of files. How can you “drag and drop” if eveything runs full screen?

    • Adam R says:

      not sure why you are having such a problem closing your apps????Its so easy my 5 year old can do it. You simply click with the left button on the top of the screen, keep it held down, and swipe down. Yea, now wasn’t that easy. Oh, and so every one knows, you don’t have to hit w+x to bring up the modded start menu, just move your mouse to where the start button used to be on the desktop and RIGHT click and there it is. I love windows 8. I’ve used every version of windows sense 3.11, even windows ME(what a joke) and I hade one problem with all of them, crashes and BSOD. I have been using w8 sense it was public preview and it has never crashed on me, VIVA WINDOWS 8!

  35. 2nd Hand Guy says:

    I wonder why everyone has such an issue with shutting down windows 8. On most desktop computers, a simple push of the power button starts the shut down process in XP, Vista,Windows 7 & 8, displays a message “Windows is shutting down” and then turns off your PC. Simple – no need to click anything or create any special aps. If your computer goes into hibernate or sleep mode, check your settings in bios. It’s really that simple. No need to click anything, just push the damn power button.

  36. Ray says:

    I like seeing what I opened in case I need to go back to the program with out needing to look for them in the background.

  37. Tim C says:

    I love Windows 8, it is the best windows yet. It runs and loads faster, it has made my old machine run like new. I was going to toss out 2 PC’s but now they run like a dream. No need for third party virus malware programs. And just one click from the start up screen to run my desktop programs. Plus the search function is so much simpler.

  38. Stan Slovinsky says:

    The more I read about Windows 8, the more I feel like going to a MAC.

  39. Michael Shreve says:

    ANY program can have a shortcut on the desktop. I group the shortcuts in folders JUST as I have with the OTHER versions of windows and start them from there. Best I can figure, is that those who HATE Windows 8 are LAZY, LAME, or Window HATERS.

  40. Fred says:

    I’m one of those guys who abandoned Windows after XP. I got tired of my machines slowing to a snail’s pace, and I didn’t want to have to spend hours figuring out how to eliminate items from the start up and which ones should be eliminated and which ones should not be eliminated. Has Windows 8 solved that problem? I would love to be able to buy cheap computers again. All of my Macs operate as fast three years after buying them as they operated the day I bought them. I was never able to say that about a PC computer.

    There are a lot of things about Windows computers that I liked better than Macs, but just too many headaches came with Windows: the slowdowns, the viruses, the crashes (which occurred less in XP than in previous versions), and all the time required for maintenance and programs that installed things at startup whether you wanted them to or not. With a Mac, at least, the only thing that starts at startup are things you expressly set yourself.

    So has Windows addressed all of those issues? Can you buy a fast Windows machine now that will stay fast?

  41. Loretta C says:

    I am a Vista person, never had a bit of trouble with Vista. I know I will get a lot of Boo’s..Before windows 8 came out I went out and bought two more Vista computers..A laptop and another desktop. I work in paint shop, make stationery and animation then send to my Vista frinds. Hope they will bring back windows mail or some sort of email client to where we can do our graphics. For now, I am keeping my Vista computers.

  42. Mario says:

    I’m sure windows 8 is fine but the problem I have is that there is not enough literature on it. I feel like I have to figure things out on my own or by accidently reading about how someone else accedently figured out how this or that can be done. It would be nice if windows 8 came with a tutering bottom that would lead you through it all

    • Loretta C says:

      Mario, you can go to Office Depot or Staples and buy a book on Windows 8…it will be called, “Simplified Windows 8…or go on your search engine and type in what you would like to know, there is all kinds of info out there about windows 8.

  43. Jeff says:

    Article continued here

    Why do I have to click Article continued here only to start at the top of the Article? After what I have already read, only a few left to read after that? Why can’t the article be posted as a whole of the first page?

    • Dave says:

      Hi Jeff. The original article was always posted here on PCTechBytes. You can from another site that posted an excerpt of the article.

  44. Robert says:

    The worst thing about Win 8 is the drivers, the Wi-Fi driver on my laptop is unstable and when I install a Win 7 driver Win 8 soon reinstalls the bad Win 8 driver.

  45. anon says:

    I’m sick of people saying, “but it’s so easy to type the name of the program you want to use and select it from the results.” If I could remember every tiny little tool and program I have on my system that would be fine, but like most humans I have trouble remembering the often cryptic name of a root-kit killer or dang blast it what’s that office program called? I like “surfing” my programs sometimes, remembering oh ya I have that, or oh haven’t used that in a while.

  46. Surveyor Gene says:

    I must say all this complaining about the Win 8 Metro start-up screen looks like a bunch of little kids complaining because mommy put the mayonnaise on the wrong side of the sandwich. Why don’t you guys get over yourselves? Metro saves you from having to make a keystroke to access ALL your programs! So organize the ones you use the most on the left hand side of the screen and they will be the first things you see when you turn on the machine. If you want to see all your applications including operating system controls Right click your mouse and pick the little icon in the lower right part of the screen and you have access to anything you want to do with your machine. What can be simpler? Windows 8 is a great operating system whether you have a touch screen or not. It is just better with one. I have a desktop machine with a third party touch screen from Dell and I love this set-up! It boots in about 15 seconds and then there is a delay while I type in my password and Wala! I am ready to do anything I want. I didn’t add any third party workarounds and my system runs great. I runs circles around any OSX systems I have seen. I even installed a virtual XP system so I can run my old AutoCAD software. My virtual XP system is faster and has more memory than the system I used to have when I bought the software.

  47. Mack says:

    I have always removed the floss and pretty windows from Windows since XP. That gives a considerable speed boost. I’m not that interested in something looking pretty, I am interested in the actual output. So Windows 8 doesn’t interest me. In fact I have moved to Linux for most of the time now and just use W7 for when I want to use software that I don’t have on Linux. 7’s the ;last version I will buy probably.

  48. Robert Bloomfield says:

    Dearest Lorn B

    regarding your obnoxious comment:
    “What else are you conditioned to? What do you know about the MAJORITY? YOU SURE ARE NOT ONE OF THEM.”

    check out the article below and learn something…

    http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tech-manager/windows-xp-if-it-aint-broke/8265?tag=nl.e101&s_cid=e101&ttag=e101

    many people here have expressed have expressed themselves quite well… unfortunately you were not one of them!

    Robert Bloomfield

  49. Burn Shower says:

    The “Start” button opened us up to the language used by the programmers. It gave us the ability to search within for various programs and files. For a person who has never used a computer, they could find the term and click on it to get a program to work.
    , Windows 8 assumes you know all the command words. Well, I don’t remember them.
    , So I use my XPprofessional more than Win 8. It is slower but I know my way around in it.

    Using Win8 is like walking around with a blindfold on. They mucked up, kind of like Vista.

    My buddy who has Win7 is gonna stay with Win7. Not even going to try after seeing how it works.

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